From: | Benjamin Zipursky <bzipursky@law.fordham.edu> |
To: | Jason Neyers <jneyers@uwo.ca> |
obligations@uwo.ca | |
CC: | Richard Wright <Rwright@kentlaw.edu> |
Stephen Sugarman <sugarman@law.berkeley.edu> | |
Tsachi Keren-Paz <t.kerenpaz@law.keele.ac.uk> | |
Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@ucl.ac.uk> | |
Date: | 17/06/2009 17:13:34 UTC |
Subject: | Re: ODG: Reasonable mistakes |
I generally agree with Rob and Richard on this. Below is part of an
e-mail I sent to Tsachi.
My own view is that there are any number of reasons to be cautious
about any equation between a “reasonable belief that plaintiff
consented to the touching” defense in battery and reasonableness in
negligence law. These include at least the following:
(a) I believe that under the common law historically, and in most
American jurisdictions today, a defendant’s reasonable but false
belief that the plaintiff consented to the touching is not a consent
defense to battery, with the following very substantial caveat: it is
possible that the plaintiff did not intend to consent, subjectively, but
in fact engaged in conduct that a reasonable person would regard as
consent (and defendant did regard)– i.e., I think the correct (and
established) position on when consent has occurred for battery is
roughly the “objective” one that is found in contract law. This
is what O’Brien v. Cunard can be understood as saying, although it is
sometimes read more broadly (perhaps even by the Resetatement (Second)
51 !). Courts and commentators are even clearer about this point when
it comes to consent in other intentional torts, e.g., trespass to land;
(b) There is little basis for taking the “reasonableness” of the
ordinary care standard of negligence law to be fundamentally epistemic
(even if epistemic errors are often plausibly brought in by litigators
on both sides, in particular cases). The “reasonableness” of the
ordinary care standard in negligence law is fundamentally about whether
a defendant acted as a reasonably prudent or reasonably careful person
would have done; as I have argued elsewhere, this adverbial conjugation
of “reasonable” involves a specification of the level of prudence or
carefulness the fact finder should be measuring the defendant’s
conduct against, not a level of epistemic quality to measure the
defendant’s exercise of belief formation capacities against;
(c) Reasonable mistake of belief in criminal law’s treatment of
self-defense looks quite different, initially, from what I described in
(a), but obviously tort differs from criminal law [but see Courvoisier
v. Raymond], and in any event the criminal law, excuse/justification
debate on how to treat mistaken belief in self-defense is a nightmare.
Ben Zipursky